Seeds of Destruction
By pmd on May 11, 2008 in News & Politics |
This is a MUST-READ on who the Clintons really are–from yesterday’s Times:
Seeds of Destruction
By Bob Herbert
Published: May 10, 2008
Their repertoire has always been deficient in grace and class. So there was Hillary Clinton cold-bloodedly asserting to USA Today that she was the candidate favored by “hard-working Americans, white Americans,” and that her opponent, Barack Obama, the black candidate, just can’t cut it with that crowd.
“There’s a pattern emerging here,” said Mrs. Clinton.
There is, indeed. There was a name for it when the Republicans were using that kind of lousy rhetoric to good effect: it was called the Southern strategy, although it was hardly limited to the South. Now the Clintons, in their desperation to find some way — any way — back to the White House, have leapt aboard that sorry train.
He can’t win! Don’t you understand? He’s black! He’s black!
The Clintons have been trying to embed that gruesomely destructive message in the brains of white voters and superdelegates for the longest time. It’s a grotesque insult to African-Americans, who have given so much support to both Bill and Hillary over the years.
(Representative Charles Rangel of New York, who is black and has been an absolutely unwavering supporter of Senator Clinton’s White House quest, told The Daily News: “I can’t believe Senator Clinton would say anything that dumb.”)
But it’s an insult to white voters as well, including white working-class voters. It’s true that there are some whites who will not vote for a black candidate under any circumstance. But the United States is in a much better place now than it was when people like Richard Nixon, George Wallace and many others could make political hay by appealing to the very worst in people, using the kind of poisonous rhetoric that Senator Clinton is using now.
I don’t know if Senator Obama can win the White House. No one knows. But to deliberately convey the idea that most white people — or most working-class white people — are unwilling to give an African-American candidate a fair hearing in a presidential election is a slur against whites.
The last time the Clintons had to make a big exit was at the end of Bill Clinton’s second term as president — and they made a complete and utter hash of that historic moment. Having survived the Monica Lewinsky ordeal, you might have thought the Clintons would be on their best behavior.
Instead, a huge scandal erupted when it became known that Mrs. Clinton’s brothers, Tony and Hugh Rodham, had lobbied the president on behalf of criminals who then received presidential pardons or a sentence commutation from Mr. Clinton.
Tony Rodham helped get a pardon for a Tennessee couple that had hired him as a consultant and paid or loaned him hundreds of thousands of dollars. Over the protests of the Justice Department, President Clinton pardoned the couple, Edgar Allen Gregory Jr. and his wife, Vonna Jo, who had been convicted of bank fraud in Alabama.
Hugh Rodham was paid $400,000 to lobby for a pardon of Almon Glenn Braswell, who had been convicted of mail fraud and perjury, and for the release from prison of Carlos Vignali, a drug trafficker who was convicted and imprisoned for conspiring to sell 800 pounds of cocaine. Sure enough, in his last hours in office (when he issued a blizzard of pardons, many of them controversial), President Clinton agreed to the pardon for Braswell and the sentence commutation for Vignali.
Hugh Rodham reportedly returned the money after the scandal became public and was an enormous political liability for the Clintons.
Both Clintons professed to be ignorant of anything improper or untoward regarding the pardons. Once, when asked specifically if she had talked with a deputy White House counsel about pardons, Mrs. Clinton said: “People would hand me envelopes. I would just pass them on. You know, I would not have any reason to look into them.”
It wasn’t just the pardons that sullied the Clintons’ exit from the White House. They took furniture and rugs from the White House collection that had to be returned. And they received $86,000 in gifts during the president’s last year in office, including clothing (a pantsuit, a leather jacket), flatware, carpeting, and so on. In response to the outcry over that, they decided to repay the value of the gifts.
So class is not a Clinton forte.
But it’s one thing to lack class and a sense of grace, quite another to deliberately try and wreck the presidential prospects of your party’s likely nominee — and to do it in a way that has the potential to undermine the substantial racial progress that has been made in this country over many years.
The Clintons should be ashamed of themselves. But they long ago proved to the world that they have no shame.






Senator Clinton told USA Today to consult an Associated Press story “that found how Senator Obama’s support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again, and how whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me”.
That statement is just wrong on every level. I love how certain people who support Hilary basically say “this bitch is gonna be a good president because she’s a bitch and bitches get things done” as if that qualifies her.
NO THEY FUCKIN DON’T!!!!!!!!! BITCHES CAUSE MORE PROBLEMS THAN THEY FIX!!!!!! THATS WHY THEY’RE BITCHES!!!
Been on the fence with these two, but I have no other option at this point as an American but to ride for Obama.
Lookin’ forward to the next Juan Epstein /Real Late podcasts.
Lee | May 11, 2008 | Reply
WOW…kinda crazy how she’s still looked up to when they’re probably one of the most fucked up families in presidential history lol. That family shoulda have been looked down upon long time ago but I guess certain hood rat things fly with certain people.
Kyo | May 11, 2008 | Reply
politics is so boring…there all corrupt my brother..even barack obama is going to have the same agenda..why? gov’t are all puppets controlled by a higher power…and you do know barack is related to people involved in politics already right? its not like a “fully black” dude woke up and applied to change the world..baracks got white in him and is related to many of the white politicians…its the same bloodline just a more current approach by trying to appeal to everyone with someone of so called “colour” and hip.
corryv | May 11, 2008 | Reply
Senator Obama’s racial make-up is irrelevant. He is a politician–true. He has done political things in his life, obiously, but him being elected will change America forever. Period. And I know it’s easier for people who are too lazy to pay attention to claim that none of it matters, but it does. TRUST ME. You don’t think FDR’s presidency affected us? Or LBJ’s? Well do some research cuzo. What about George W and this war? Having Gore in office sure would have effected the 3,000 Americans who are dead because of George Bush. Think people.
pmd | May 11, 2008 | Reply
having al gore as president would have had us already underway in energy conservation and related shit. thats why there needs to be a new system. how can someone win popular and still lose…(that was al right?)
Kyo | May 11, 2008 | Reply
“So class is not a Clinton forte.”
DAMN! I’ve often said that Bill wasn’t the racial progressive that many in the black community believed him to be. Yes he was a country boy from the South that knew how to act at a black church, played the sax, knew the words to “Lift Every Voice” and worked in Harlem… but what did he really do for the black population of America in his eight years?
If you look closer, you’ll find he didn’t do much.
thehaytidream | May 11, 2008 | Reply
gore would have been a good look [||] but lieberman is a f*cking trainwreck, shit’s disgusting how he turned on his own party, dude is such a loser it’s ridiculous and having him as a VP would have been a disgrace
btw peter what do you think of senator russ feingold (D - WI)
he is honest to goodness in my opinion the most principled and outstanding senator living right now
he was the lone vote against the patriot act in 2001 and has never waffled on his stances
dude to me is a true patriot and i would love to see him make major moves in 2016 after obama knocks out two successful terms in the Black House
Latarian Milton | May 11, 2008 | Reply
pmd…i agree with you on that…i guess im one of thoose guys that really gave up from a long long time ago….but yea man hopefully it does make a change….and it will def be something new which is always good to see happen..time will tell….the new layout of your website looks great! real clean and bright….
corryv | May 11, 2008 | Reply
It is insane to compare Wallace and Clinton. Clinton is a liberal, she supports Affirmative Action, she supports open borders, she supports screwing the white working class as much as posible, she is no George Wallace.
Brad | May 13, 2008 | Reply